Donnerstag, 7 Jun 2012

[CFT] Xorg 7.7 ready for testing!

Hi Fans,

The FreeBSD Xorg Team is pleased to announce Xorg 7.7 Release. We are very happy to be able to Call for testing shortly after the Xorg team annouced 7.7 release. This CFT is also open for discussion on how we should move forward with xorg release as we are facing some issues and we would like to ask for your opinion. Right now we have 2 existing xorg versions in our Ports Tree. The situation is quite bad due to our poor graphic card support. That means we do not have much choice but to take it as how it is now. But with regards to mesa support, we have to face some new challanges.

With the new mesa 8.0 release, accelerated support for a number of older graphic cards was dropped. At the moment we are not sure how to deal with that.We are thinking of just replacing mesa 7.11 with 8.0 or making a new flag like WITH_MESA= 7.11.2 / 8.0 in combination with WITH_NEW_XORG, and let the mesa 7.6.1 set as default together with the old xorg version. Obviosly the latter option make the already complex situation more complex. The problem is, users, especially  the new ones can easily get confused with it. Another issue is, the packages.We can’t deliver a package set with the new Xorg releases. This means users with new hardware will have to compile everything by themselves. Though I’m totally fine with compiling, not everyone has the CPU power to compile everything. What I’m trying to say is, I would love to see the newer xorg released as the default version, but i know this will break a lot of old hardware. The thing is, when we want to try to become a Modern Operating System, I dont see any other way to make the new xorg as default but to give Users the chance to compile the old xorg with a flag like WITH_OLD_XORG.

Some notes regarding KMS support:
KMS Support has been completely migrated to FreeBSD 10. The MFC to 9 will come soon, that means so long its not MFC’d to 9-Stable, users need to get the latest patch from our x11 mailing list.

This testing includes
* libdrm 2.4.34 (including KMS support)
* mesa 8.0.3
* full Xorg 7.7 release

Checkout Xorg Development Repo:
You will need to install devel/subversion in order to checkout the xorg repo. Next, you will need to add WITH_NEW_XORG=yes in your /etc/make.conf if you want to try out the new Xorg and mesa. Note
that if you are not qualified for the KMS patch, you shouldn’t use WITH_NEW_XORG=yes because the old intel driver doesn’t build with the new X server. If you are qualified, you should also set WITH_KMS=yes
in /etc/make.conf. Nvidia and ATI users should set WITH_NEW_XORG=yes.

svn co

A small merge script to merge the svn checkout into the real portstree can be found here:

The script is a modified version of the old kdemerge script. Please set the KDEDIR variable to the path of your ports. After merging, run one of the following command, depending on which
tool you use to manage your installed packages.

portupgrade -af \*
portmaster -a

After installing these, you will have to rebuild all xf86-* ports. We will bump all releated ports during the commit to the ports tree.

Our current plan is to let the CFT running for a while, and see what the outcome of the discussion above is. We hope to get a lot of feedback to solve as many problems as possible. Also we are working on the
libglut to freeglut migration, this will definitely complete before we import Xorg 7.7. So we still have enough time.  We are looking forward for your feedback.

– miwi on behalf of the FreeBSD X11 Team

5 Responses to “[CFT] Xorg 7.7 ready for testing!”

  1. Call for Testing (CfT): xorg 7.7 | FreeBSD News Says:

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  2. sergio Says:

    Hello, I installed the new xorg on a system 10 HEAD.. X dumps core at helper_mem.c:243
    because vbiosmem pointer is null..
    The hardware is nvidia on board,
    the driver is „nv“ (but the same happens with „vesa“)…
    the xorg is trunk compiled with:

    I kldloaded the drm module also

    Can you please point me to any help ???

  3. Thomas Says:

    Hi, this is excellent! I was able to install the updates and packages using portupgrade -af \* and the merge script. How can I get updates from now on and is there an official location to submit feedback for this? Thank you!

  4. Chris Telting Says:

    My opinion is that you should split xorg into versions on Freebsd.

    In fact delete the original xorg metaport so that people know it’s changed and they have to choose.

    xorg-classic(or legacy) xorg-new(or whatever) and we’ll all have a laugh at the coke reference.

    Not sure show feasible it would be but it would be nice if they could co-exist on the same system for mixed video card installations. So for at least legacy give it it’s own filename prefix/suffix for dependent binaries and libraries.

  5. Chris Telting Says:

    And I have high hopes for weyland. It’s would (theoretically) be so much cleaner to separate the hardware and graphics from software and the X protocols.

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